Comment on the plan
The draft plan for the new woodland is below [updated with new version 21/11/08]. Click on the image to open the full size version in a new window.
UPDATE: The latest technical drawings are now available of the designs for the Mabby and the Backy (back field).
To have your say, please post a comment in the white box below with your thoughts, ideas and suggestions for the woodland.
Thanks also to all those who gave their valuable feedback on the plan at the recent consultation event at Mab Lane Youth Centre.
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FANTASTIC!!!!!
There has been no mention about the underground sewerage plant been built on the new woodland site on Mab Lane??
The project number is 80015825 United Utilities 0845 746 2200 “Helpline”
There’s wooden posts and wire fencing (2′-0″ high partially falling down and with a run of barbed wire) around each of the existing tree plantings on the back field - these need to be removed.
Kind Regards
Ken
Comments on back field
Type G Reinforced natural boundary - I’m not sure what its purpose is? – if it’s to stop vehicular access – why not put an improved gateway on either end of the lane similar to gate with steel posts and significant concrete base recently installed near the river on Deysbrook lane. Such gates could be used by Glendale to gain access to the back field – I’m not sure from plan how Glendale would gain access to back field as plan currently stands.
There’s no path shown from Deysbrook lane on to field, to join with other paths near the river bridge. .
There’s no mention of site clearance of rubbish before work commences – most needed where trees/ bushes are to be removed and grassed along mab lane.
Type A boundary treatment (mab lane) there’s no mention of removal of existing concrete posts – nor is it clear what the new boundary treatment would be.
Would it be possible to include the small strip of land that runs between Deysbrook lane and the back field (along the Type B existing palisade fencing) and remove this fencing.
The “surface area to be broken up” – I’m not sure what you intend hear – if the surface is to be removed can we have some trees planted in the area.
Dear Kev, thanks for your comment. There’s an article clarifying the situation on the front page of the blog - also available here: http://www.mablane.com/?m=20090129
Thanks.
What a fantastic scheme, it gets my full support so can you imagine my dismay when I received a single a4 letter to inform the residents of the plans for the land directly opposite my home. We where led to believe that the Mab Lane community project would cover all the back field. If you look carefully you will notice a square plot of land in the south corner of the plans, this is where United Utilities plan to build this sewerage works. So a substantial section of the project is now taken up by these ground works. United Utilities have posted a statement on this site in response to the article in the Liverpool Echo but no direct letter to residents. I would be grateful of a meeting with an official spokes person from the Mab Lane community project to discuss my concerns. I plan to be in correspondence with the United Utilities Project manager very soon.
regarding plans for backfield there seems to be a lack of new woodland which is what the project is supposed to be the area is so attractive to offroaders and motorbikes because it is so open this issue needs to be addressed.the field will only get more use if it looks drastically different which the plans do not.the amount of money mentioned to be spent should surely provide for a lot more than is shown on the plans.
I would like a straight answer, is the Mablane Woodland Legacy just lip service or am I going to wake up each morning to a view consisting of bricks,concrete and fencing, I live opposite the proposed united utilities site and rather than living with speculation, e mails and fragmented communications I would like to talk face to face with the people responsible for the proposed eye sore and a representative from the Liverpool City Council, surely the site owners (LCC)must know what is happening to thier own land.
I look forward to recieving the date for the meeting.
Regards Lyn and Dennis Collins.
Please see my post from 8 days ago, still no reply or correspondence from a member of the Mab Lane community project. There is a clue in the name COMMUNITY do we not matter now….
From Liverpool City Council:
A planning application was submitted by United Utilities to erect new access, control building and perimeter fencing on the site opposite 34 Mab Lane L12. The City Council Planning Service has reported that the application is currently invalid because it was not accompanied by all the requisite information and this is why local residents have not yet been notified of the application. When the application is validated the statutory consultation letters will be sent out and residents will be given an opportunity to view the plans and accompanying documents via the City Council website http://www.liverpool.gov.uk.
It is understood that United Utilities will also be writing to local residents again in the near future to confirm a date and venue for a public exhibition. They will answer any questions residents may have at the exhibition and share detailed plans of their proposed work.
News from United Utilities:
United Utilities have confirmed that a public exhibition will be held on Tuesday, 3 March to discuss the proposed Mab Lane scheme.
Engineers will be in attendance at St Albert’s RC Parochial Centre from 2pm-7pm to answer any questions residents or local councillors may have about the proposed scheme and share details of their plans.
The centre’s address is 31 Hollow Croft, Stockbridge Village, L28 4EA.
(Note: The exhibition is about the United Utilities scheme - see previous post for details - rather than a general exhibition about the Mab Lane Community Woodland).
Well what a waste of a great view as aston tree services start cutting down the new trees that where planted a few years ago.. I thought the woodland trust was to plant trees not cut them all down..
All the trees that were planted for the woodlands on Mab Lane have all been cut down today “9th March 2009″ I suppose the nesting birds in them at the time don’t matter well done for doing your bit for the enviroment and the community it was short lived.
What a shame they have cut all the newly planted trees down. I thought the woodland trust was to plant trees not cut them down ?
From Liverpool City Council:
The trees adjacent to Mab Lane on the boundary of the new Community Woodland have been removed in preparation for the construction of a new drain and detention tank by United Utilities to alleviate foul flooding in the Mab Lane area. In preparation for these works, it has been necessary for United Utilities to remove the trees as early as possible to avoid the bird nesting season.
All the trees that have had to be removed will be replaced nearby upon the completion of the drainage works and will be selected to complement the development of the new community woodland.
Thanks,
Site admin
Yet again what a total waste of money, the field now looks a total disgrace. At least when the trees where there it disguised the fly tipping and assortment of dumped rubbish. Now its all on show, so how long do we wait for “trees to be planted nearby”??More than likely a long time after the building, construction and disruption for local home owners and residents.Is it any wonder homes are not selling when this area now looks like nowhere anyone would choose to live.
you do realise that since removing the trees and leaving the back field open we will shortly receieve afresh crop of stolen cars on the field very clever
Could someone confirm is there to be 2 drain and dentention tanks to be put inplace on the Mab Lane site when I went to the meetings and saw plans there was only one dentention tank on the plans I have now been informed that untitied utilities are planning for a second if this is so I feel deceived and lied to, untitied untilities will then be taking up more of the field, I can put up with the building work even if it’s right on my front step, in the knowledge that in more than 12 months I should have awonderful landscaped view, but I am starting to feel a little uneasy that this may not happen, how thrilled I was when the mersey forest was planted how I watched it grow each year, and now my view is a building site which I feel is going to go on and on and on.
Response from United Utilities to the above query:
“We can confirm that we are building just one tank on-site at Mab Lane, which has been outlined previously in our plans. We have submitted plans to our regulator Ofwat to carry out further sewer improvement work in the local area. Once we receive a response we can focus on finalising timescales to deliver the improvements.”
Regards, The Mersey Forest Team (site admin)
Thank you very much for your swift and reassureing reply
As a late enthusiast to nature and wildlife I think the plans to develop are wonderful for the area! However I am a little apprehensive; my fear when I moved into the area was that some day the ‘countryside’ that faces my home would be built upon and the only reason I moved to that area was for what I have experience over the last four years….”At present I wake up of a morning I look out my window and pride myself on the fact I have moved into an area that gives me a little piece of heaven! No i dont live in some beautiful sun drenched far away oasis but I find this peace and tranquility where you might ask? opposite what I now know to be the ‘backy’ in Stockbridge, already I see beautiful wildlife and nature, trees are in abundance and the area is teaming with wildlife, its so peaceful and NATURAL except for the ‘dreaded bikes’ when they are about.” I fear the changes proposed will be beautiful but compromise my peace particuarly when I look at some of the ideas for development. e.g ideas for community events to be held there, increases in pedestrians, dog walkers etc sounds like this will lead to conjestion stifling the area! I fear my peace will be compromised and will soon diminish. Whilst I am no wall-flower and love to party, I do like my weekend mornings looking at trees not conjestion walking past my window!
I’d just like to point out that me and my partner had to replant the tree several times when the kids dragged them up - we also like to walk our dog - PS no one else replanted a single tree.
Like Julie, I too am delghted at the ‘little piece of heaven’ which is the Mab Lane field. Since I moved here over twenty years ago I give thanks every day for the blessing of this oasis only a few strides from my door as do many others both my partner and I meet on our daily walks. This is not a field for events, this is a gentle entryway to a haven of wildlife, beauty and peace leading into the more populated Croxteth Park. Please do not put events on this land as it will be detrimental to the peace and harmony of the place. Croxteth Park is the best venue for events with car parking and many access points as well as the cafe, children’s playground, farm etc. It also has the benefit of a full grounds staff to clean up the mess some - certainly not all - leave, along with easy access for security. Our field is serene and peaceful (mostly) and provides us with a real walk with nature. Please keep it that way. Kath
Quick technical note: apologies for length of time it has taken for the two ‘16 June’ posts to appear on the page. This was due to a failure in our comment notification system which we’ll endeavour to put right. Thanks.
I do a lot of running in the area, and while i was out today i took a run down the new path that is part laid, also noticed the work being carried out in the feild ‘ it’s nice to see it finally taking shape, cant wait to use it as part of my running route, i just hope it’s not a quick cosmetic job and i hope it’s going to be maintained, to be enjoyed by the community for many years to come.
made up with the work thats getting done. but how about keeping the road clean of an evening outside the field. the mud and stone are flying about due to traffic. very slippy.
While i’m all for making the area a lot nicer to look at how about dealing with the Anti social behaviour of some of the kids first. I can’t help feeling that unless That problem is addressed first this new woodland will just be a waste of time… They will have it wrecked within a couple of months and my biggest concern is once its completed they will now have the perfect place to hide from the police. What good is a haven for decent people when a small minority with no respect for anything or anyone will more than likely ruin it for everyone else. The money would be better used getting rid of the small handfull of scum to make the area nicer to live in not look nicer to live in.
Well coming to the end of of the drainage project by DCT, What a shame for all the people coming home from work with all the mud from the site entrance all over the main road, And coming up to the roudabout and fimding it very difficult to stop, Maybe DCT will hope all the rain will wash it away than do the right thing and clean it up at the end of the day,
Annoyed Resident